Saturday, May 5, 2018

hashkafah philosophy - What is the traditional/common Haredi "non-Hasidic" response to using the "Three Oaths" as an anti-Zionist argument?



Kesubos 111b lists the "Three Oaths" made incumbent on the Jews and the nations during the Exile. The "Three Oaths" have served as a cornerstone of anti-Zionist literature (http://www.nkusa.org/activities/speeches/nyc072602.cfm).


It is my understanding among the misnagdish/non-Hasidic haredi factions that are typically more ambiguous towards Zionism, that their objections to the situation in the Holy land is more on grounds of the secular nature of the institutions as opposed to a strictly halachic Talmudic/torah-based objection.


My question is, what is the typical response to the question of the three oaths among that faction?



Answer



The Steipler Gaon in his compendium of letters known as the Kreinah D'Igresa letter 739. He was asked whether it is permitted to vote in the Israeli elections, The Steipler responds that “I don't understand the position of the Satmar Rebbe, though I agree with all that was written in his book...nonetheless the people have returned, it is a fact that the people have come back, it is now a reality and therefore whether it was done correctly doesn't matter, thus now one must vote in order to ensure the safety of Klal Yisrael...”. and in other letters he writes that all throughout Jewish history Jews were part of the Gentile governments in Europe and of course if one could be in a goyish government he can be in the Jewish government, but nonetheless says the Steipler that one must be very careful that being part of parliament or government is not about getting money, even for the Jews, rather it is about upholding Jewish law.


This letter of the Steipler is very indicative of viewpoint of the Agudas Yisroel/Degel Hatorah party (The Steipler was considered one of the leaders of the party along with Rav Schach). They agree in principle with the basic arguments of the Satmar Rebbe, but also take the pragmatic view that the state is a reality and arguing whether it was established in sin is not important anymore. As the facts on the grounds are that it exists. Now we must deal with it and join it to better and further Torah and mitzvos.


For further reading I suggest the book Messianism, Zionism, and Jewish Radicalism by Aviezer Ravitzky.


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